MKIII yaw string sale

Bumper,
Why can't we buy these through Wings and wheels or cumulus soaring
web sites? It would save you a ton of work.

"Dr. John Ackerson" wrote in message
...
Bumper,
Why can't we buy these through Wings and wheels or cumulus soaring
web sites? It would save you a ton of work.

I think the reason is that there's not enough mark up to cover their
expenses to deal with it - - they need to make a reasonable profit. The
pricing it basically at wholesale now, so they would have to sell for
substantially more than $10 USD to make it work for retail sales. I would
raise prices, but even as nice as the MKIV is, there's probably a price
point beyond which a yaw string won't sell (g).

There are a couple of glider businesses that carry them as a service to
their walk-in customers, such as Williams Soaring in CA and SoaringNV at
Minden. They sell them at their cost, so it's probably not reasonable to ask
them to incur the expense of shipping them, given that I ship them for free
(to USA, and for just $1internationally).

Although I have a number of jigs and fixtures to help speed and make more
accurate the fabrication process, it's still a handmade item with over 10
minutes needed to make each MKIV. To automate further would be hard to
justify given the size of the potential market. Of course I could farm out
the labor to lower my investment in time, but I haven't done that yet. I
have also not tried advertising in Soaring etc. instead relying on word of
mouth and ras etc.

This is a hobby for me and a way to share one of my inventions rather than a
business.

And finally, thanks for asking! Every time there's a post about the MKIV or
Quite Vent kit here on ras, it generates a whole bunch of orders - - gorilla
advertising (g).

bumper
zz
Minden, NV

Da Bump,

Where oh where do we order these things? Give me a surface address or
web site to send the coin. Google doesn't seem to be able to locate a
web site or nothin' on your great device. Where are the instructions
found?

Oh the humanity!

- John "Yaw-less" DeRosa

On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:20:58 +0000, bumper wrote:

And finally, thanks for asking! Every time there's a post about the MKIV
or Quite Vent kit here on ras, it generates a whole bunch of orders - -
gorilla advertising (g).

I installed mine getting on for a month ago and finally got to fly with
it yesterday.

It was just as well that I replaced the old string. It was about ready to
fall off: it was on the glider when I bought it and had been there who
knows how long plus three years. In consequence the sticker's adhesive
had become almost non-adhesive. Bumper's installation instructions worked
well. I made the paper template at home and used some kite line as a
guide. I attached the guide line to the fin and attached the template to
my canopy with masking tape, so the installation became a simple one man
job.

The result works well and looks great. Its certainly nice not having an
opaque string anchor in front of me.


--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

On Monday, June 8, 2009 at 9:20:58 AM UTC-7, bumper wrote:
"Dr. John Ackerson" wrote in message
...
Bumper,
Why can't we buy these through Wings and wheels or cumulus soaring
web sites? It would save you a ton of work.

I think the reason is that there's not enough mark up to cover their
expenses to deal with it - - they need to make a reasonable profit. The
pricing it basically at wholesale now, so they would have to sell for
substantially more than $10 USD to make it work for retail sales. I would
raise prices, but even as nice as the MKIV is, there's probably a price
point beyond which a yaw string won't sell (g).

Uh, are you selling a g-string?

There are a couple of glider businesses that carry them as a service to
their walk-in customers, such as Williams Soaring in CA and SoaringNV at
Minden. They sell them at their cost, so it's probably not reasonable to ask
them to incur the expense of shipping them, given that I ship them for free
(to USA, and for just $1internationally).

Although I have a number of jigs and fixtures to help speed and make more
accurate the fabrication process, it's still a handmade item with over 10
minutes needed to make each MKIV. To automate further would be hard to
justify given the size of the potential market. Of course I could farm out
the labor to lower my investment in time, but I haven't done that yet. I
have also not tried advertising in Soaring etc. instead relying on word of
mouth and ras etc.

This is a hobby for me and a way to share one of my inventions rather than a
business.

And finally, thanks for asking! Every time there's a post about the MKIV or
Quite Vent kit here on ras, it generates a whole bunch of orders - - gorilla
advertising (g).

bumper
zz
Minden, NV

On my recent visit to Minden I purchased both the MKIV yaw string and
the Quiet Vent. I'm extremely pleased with both.

Hadn't heard about any g-string. Is that for aerobatic pilots? What
prevents it from drooping? 8-)

On 11/24/2015 7:12 PM, SoaringXCellence wrote:
On Monday, June 8, 2009 at 9:20:58 AM UTC-7, bumper wrote:
"Dr. John Ackerson" wrote in message
...
Bumper,
Why can't we buy these through Wings and wheels or cumulus soaring
web sites? It would save you a ton of work.
I think the reason is that there's not enough mark up to cover their
expenses to deal with it - - they need to make a reasonable profit. The
pricing it basically at wholesale now, so they would have to sell for
substantially more than $10 USD to make it work for retail sales. I would
raise prices, but even as nice as the MKIV is, there's probably a price
point beyond which a yaw string won't sell (g).
Uh, are you selling a g-string?
There are a couple of glider businesses that carry them as a service to
their walk-in customers, such as Williams Soaring in CA and SoaringNV at
Minden. They sell them at their cost, so it's probably not reasonable to ask
them to incur the expense of shipping them, given that I ship them for free
(to USA, and for just $1internationally).

Although I have a number of jigs and fixtures to help speed and make more
accurate the fabrication process, it's still a handmade item with over 10
minutes needed to make each MKIV. To automate further would be hard to
justify given the size of the potential market. Of course I could farm out
the labor to lower my investment in time, but I haven't done that yet. I
have also not tried advertising in Soaring etc. instead relying on word of
mouth and ras etc.

This is a hobby for me and a way to share one of my inventions rather than a
business.

And finally, thanks for asking! Every time there's a post about the MKIV or
Quite Vent kit here on ras, it generates a whole bunch of orders - - gorilla
advertising (g).

bumper
zz
Minden, NV

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Dan, 5J

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 7:32:35 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
On my recent visit to Minden I purchased both the MKIV yaw string
and the Quiet Vent.* I'm extremely pleased with both.



Hadn't heard about any g-string.* Is that for aerobatic pilots?*
What prevents it from drooping?
8-)
--

Dan, 5J

Dan,

There's been incredible interest in the MK1 Mod-a G-string. It's been in the works for years. But lots of bugs and issues. Wife won't let me hire the models needed to get the kinks sorted out . . . trying to push this further would doubtless be a dead end for me.

This thread was from '09!

MKIII . . . ah, the memories :c), been replaced by the MKIV several years back, and the MKIV has had improvements over it's run and should be at least a MKV or MKVI by now. But then that would mean recertification and all the associated costs, tests for flight into known icing, firing frozen chickens at it, that sort of thing.

I seldom get orders direct anymore (except from the wife), MKIV's are mostly sold by the major on-line soaring suppliers; Cumulus Soaring, Craggy Aero, and Wings & Wheels. I've finally hit the big time but will still need crowd funding for a suitable corporate jet. Haven't decided if it should be a sustainer or a self launch.

bumper

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 11:39:50 AM UTC-6, bumper wrote:

There's been incredible interest in the MK1 Mod-a G-string. It's been in the works for years. But lots of bugs and issues. Wife won't let me hire the models needed to get the kinks sorted out . . . trying to push this further would doubtless be a dead end for me.

Ah yes, buggy g-strings; reminds me of my days in the PI...

Kirk
66

Bumper,

I looked at a Stemme this morning and it had what I suppose was a MkIII
yaw string. Funny thing, though - the pointy end of the mount was
facing aft. I guess the installer didn't get the instructions.

On 11/25/2015 10:39 AM, bumper wrote:
On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 7:32:35 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
On my recent visit to Minden I purchased both the MKIV yaw string
and the Quiet Vent. I'm extremely pleased with both.



Hadn't heard about any g-string. Is that for aerobatic pilots?
What prevents it from drooping?
8-)
--

Dan, 5J
Dan,

There's been incredible interest in the MK1 Mod-a G-string. It's been in the works for years. But lots of bugs and issues. Wife won't let me hire the models needed to get the kinks sorted out . . . trying to push this further would doubtless be a dead end for me.

This thread was from '09!

MKIII . . . ah, the memories :c), been replaced by the MKIV several years back, and the MKIV has had improvements over it's run and should be at least a MKV or MKVI by now. But then that would mean recertification and all the associated costs, tests for flight into known icing, firing frozen chickens at it, that sort of thing.

I seldom get orders direct anymore (except from the wife), MKIV's are mostly sold by the major on-line soaring suppliers; Cumulus Soaring, Craggy Aero, and Wings & Wheels. I've finally hit the big time but will still need crowd funding for a suitable corporate jet. Haven't decided if it should be a sustainer or a self launch.

bumper




--
Dan, 5J

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 3:28:37 PM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
Bumper,

I looked at a Stemme this morning and it had what I suppose was a
MkIII yaw string.* Funny thing, though - the pointy end of the mount
was facing aft.* I guess the installer didn't get the instructions.

Dan, 5J

Dan,

Guess that's why it's printed in big letters on the M18 Claymore mine, "FRONT TOWARD ENEMY".

Just in case they slept through that part of the training :c).

bumper